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Company " Digital television(CDTV), which manages the thematic TV of VGTRK and Rostelecom, is closing the Country channel, dedicated to Russian regions. It did not attract a discernible audience despite high content spending. It will be launched instead children's channel“Multimusic” with songs from cartoons, the rights to which will be purchased from Soyuzmultfilm and other major studios.

The company TsTV VGTRK and Rostelecom launches new TV channel“Multimusic” will take the place of the “Strana” channel on November 30 at 20:00, said Deputy General Director of Central TV Sergei Koshlyakov. The basis of the Multimusic broadcast will be songs and music from cartoons - for example, the network will have an hour of songs about friendship, an hour of dancing, lullabies, etc., explains Mr. Koshlyakov.

Negotiations with the main producers of Russian animation on the purchase of rights to fragments of cartoons with songs are being conducted by DTV's partner, the company 0+ Media. According to Kartoteka.ru, it has the same owners as the distributor of DTV channels Signal Media - Liliya Khon and Vladimir Krasnov. This company is the contractor for the formation of the channel library, explains Sergei Koshlyakov, its owners also took on part of the investment in the DTV technological block. Currently, 0+ Media is negotiating to purchase the rights from Soyuzmultfilm; the contract is being finalized. A source in Soyuzmultfilm confirmed this. Negotiations are also underway with the studios “Animaccord” (“Masha and the Bear”), GC “Riki” (“Smeshariki” and “Fixiki”), says Mr. Koshlyakov, in addition, it is planned to add foreign content (DTV already has ones aimed at foreign countries children's channels Ani and Tlum).

0+ Media CEO Alexander Sablukov adds that the company also sells advertising on children's DTV channels and is engaged in licensed promotion of their brands. In particular, by the end of the year two “Mult” stores will open with children’s goods from Russian cartoon brands, the first in the “Riviera” shopping center; next year it is planned to launch ten franchise stores in the regions.

Channel "Strana" lagged behind other channels of DTV in terms of audience. It was designed for residents of the regions; VGTRK bought it in 2011 from a pool of investors, including former RBC CEO Yuri Rovensky. The transaction amount was not disclosed; sellers previously said that they invested $10 million in the launch in 2009. “Strana” did not achieve a significant audience: its average daily viewing time was six to eight minutes a day, which was unacceptable given its high costs for content, admits Sergei Koshlyakov - others educational channels DTV is considered to be 20 minutes.

Producing content for “Country” was expensive, since the channel showed stories about regional achievements, which meant a lot of business trips, they explain in CTV. The channel was counting on the regions themselves to participate in the project, but this did not happen, and the international news agenda drew interest away from the regional one. The archives of the “Country” content will remain on the Internet on its website, the channel’s editors will move to other DTV channels. This is the second reformatted channel in the DTV package: last summer, instead of “24dok” with expensive and high-quality content, but little demanded by viewers, the “Doctor” channel was launched.

When launching Multimusic, the DTV company was guided by the results of the Mult channel. It began broadcasting in 2014, and now its average daily viewing time is, according to its own data, 65–70 minutes. “Multimusic” should have at least 40 minutes, as calculated by DTV. According to Mediascope, in the audience of 4–17 years old, Mult is third after the Karusel and Disney channels with an average audience share of 7.9% in January-September 2017.

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“It's a dead horse. No need to bet on it"

Life TV channel stops working. What happened to the media empire of Aram Gabrelyanov

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Today, August 18, at 17:00 Moscow time on air Life TV channel The last original news release was released. Friday is also the last working day of the remaining on-air crews on the channel.

The channel's employees themselves learned the details today at a general editorial meeting. “All the broadcast employees were fired. Only four operators remained. The question also arose about the closure of the recently launched SHOT project, in addition, the reduction affected several journalists,” says a source in News Media.

Rumors about the collapse of the media empire of Aram Gabrelyanov, the News Media holding, began to appear in the media about a year ago, just after personnel changes took place in the presidential administration. In October 2016, Vyacheslav Volodin, with whom Gabrelyanov developed a good relationship, the post of first deputy head of the Russian Presidential Administration was replaced by Sergei Kiriyenko, who since 2005 served as general director of the state corporation Rosatom.

Our source close to Gabrelyanov’s holding says that in the new media system that has developed in Russia, “Life (website and TV channel) in the form in which they existed were simply not needed. This is a rather expensive resource, and the problems facing the authorities can be solved in cheaper ways.”

Another source from the media holding is confident that News Media has problems because for a long time Aram Gabrelyanov’s publications fueled, and sometimes even initiated, intra-elite conflicts. “Life killed whoever it wanted and how it wanted: the Ministry of Internal Affairs, governors, ministers, incriminating evidence on a variety of people was published. In a media environment cleared of any manifestation of independence, News Media publications were a lump in the throat for many high-ranking people,” the source said.

There are also those who are sure: nothing terrible is happening, reforms in the News Media holding, in particular on the TV channel, are a natural necessity and a new starting point for the development of the holding. Thus, ex-chief editor of the Life channel Ilya Melekhin says that it was “unpromising to invest in the project, knowing that it will die in 3-4 years.” “It’s better to change the format in advance. Good companies survive when they change format before the market forces them to,” he says.

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Let's remember how a graduate of Moscow State University, who began his career at Ulyanovsk Komsomolets, was able to create a media empire in the mid-2000s. And how today it has turned into several appanage principalities.

After working in Ulyanovsk, in 1997 in Moscow, the future Russian media magnate began publishing the newspaper Moskovskie Vedomosti, which almost immediately began to be published in many regions of Russia. Three more years later, in 2000, Gabrelyanov gave the newspaper a new name - “Life”. Already in 2001, he founded the News Media holding, which in ten years turned into a media giant. News Media had newspapers, a TV channel, a website, radio and even comics. The holding immediately took a position loyal to the authorities, which Gabrelyanov openly declared.

According to Lenta.Ru, in 2006, 50% minus one share of News Media was sold to the investment fund UFG Private Equity Fund. In 2008, UFG Private Equity Fund sold its stake in News Media to the National Media Group (NMG) holding, where Aram Gabrelyanov subsequently took over as deputy general director. He ceased to hold this position in the summer of 2017.

For all 10 years, the media in News Media have lived up to their slogan - “first in breaking news.” Thus, according to Medialogy, in 2014 the Izvestia newspaper, the LifeNews TV channel and the RSN radio station became the first in terms of citation among Russian media. In 2015, LifeNews and RSN retained their leading positions in this ranking, while the Izvestia newspaper dropped to second place, behind Kommersant. And already in 2016, only the Life.ru portal became the leader in citations, Izvestia was second, and RSN dropped out of the ranking altogether. Our source explains that the departure from the leading positions of Izvestia and RSN was due to the fact that all the holding’s resources were thrown into rebooting the Life website and bringing it to the top in terms of citations.

“We have brotherly relations with Kadyrov”

Life's popularity peaked in 2014, when the armed conflict began in southeastern Ukraine. Then literally the whole world followed the progress of the hostilities that unfolded in the Lugansk and Donetsk regions of Ukraine.

In May 2014, Ashot Gabrelyanov (son of Aram Gabrelyanov, then editor-in-chief of the site) made a statement about the disappearance of two journalists Life News: Oleg Sedyakin and Marat Saichenko, who covered the military events in Ukraine. Both were then detained by the Ukrainian security services because during a search they allegedly found an anti-aircraft missile system. Aram Gabrelyanov does not hide the fact that Life News employees were saved by the head of the Chechen Republic, Ramzan Kadyrov, with whom he has “brotherly relations.” “I didn’t even ask him (Kadyrov - Znak), he called me when the guys were in Ukraine and asked if my guys were there,” the head of NewsMedia said in an interview with blogger Amiran Sardarov. "Do not be scared! I’ll take them,” Gabrelyanov quotes Ramzan Kadyrov. As a result, Kadyrov personally was involved in the rescue of Oleg Sedyakin and Marat Saichenko. At the end of May, both journalists were flown from Ukraine to Grozny and then to Moscow on the personal plane of the head of Chechnya.

According to a source on a website close to News Media, Aram Gabrelyanov’s media became such an influential toy in 2014 that in the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces, where Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu was staying, there were two television screens: “on one they showed “Russia-24” “, and on the other - Life News.”

The triumphant rise of News Media stopped in 2016, when, after changes in the presidential administration, the media map of Russia was redrawn.

How the empire fell apart

The NewsMedia media holding stopped publishing Izvestia in August 2016. Then the management of Izvestia again (as it was until 2011) passed to OJSC Gazeta Izvestia (according to SPARK, owned by CJSC National Media Group and its subsidiary Invest-Media LLC).

In December 2016, the Life Sound radio station began broadcasting on the RSN frequency; in January 2017, it closed. Now the radio version of the Life channel is heard on the free frequency. “People complained that Gabrelyanov had gone crazy,” says the source. — RSN was extremely popular - there were 100 calls on one line at a time. But it was a change of format. After the radio was closed, the workers were not kicked out anywhere. Some were transferred to other departments. In general, there were no offended people, because everyone was paid in full,” the source added.

In September 2016, News Media management held a general meeting with employees of the Russian News Service (according to SPARK, before its closure, the radio was part of NMG). “At the meeting we were told that it was time to change, because the time had come for drastic changes. At first we were told that RSN would receive a double name and become “RSN Life”, and we would accustom people to Life. Then the radio was supposed to completely become Life, but when this would happen was not yet known in September,” the former RSN presenter told the site. According to him, the management of the media holding assured its employees that broadcasting would continue. “So we started working on new scheme. Songs that matched the meaning began to be added to serious news stories. In the middle of discussing the topic of reducing demand for foreign tours, they inserted the Leningrad song “I Cry and Cry.” It's already become comical. But Aram Gabrelyanov was pleased. He wanted to rejuvenate the audience,” said the ex-host. He is sure that media tycoon Gabrelyanov simply lost interest in RSN after a while, because “mostly adults listened to the radio.”

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The Life.ru portal experienced many transformations throughout 2016. It was supposed to become the flagship of News Media, combining Super.ru (formerly Life Showbiz) and Life Sport. However, over time, the team of journalists who filled the Life website with exclusive content moved to work on new projects sponsored by Aram Gabrelyanov, for example Mash (simultaneously published on Telegram, VKontakte and YouTube). Now, materials with links to public pages controlled by Gabrelyanov are increasingly appearing on the Life.ru website. According to Medialogy, the Life.ru website has ceased to be the leader in citations, taking fourth place in the ranking in June 2017 - for the first time in several years.

No less changes were expected for the workers of the Life News TV channel, which in April 2016 changed its name to Life. In May 2016, Andrey Mikheev left the post of editor-in-chief, and his place was taken by Ilya Melekhin (former producing editor of Channel 4 in Yekaterinburg). Before this appointment, he headed Life.78, the Life TV channel in St. Petersburg. It’s just that this TV channel stopped producing news in the summer of 2017. The Life.78 brand has ceased to exist. Now the channel’s production capacity has been transferred to the joint editorial office of Channel Five, Ren TV and Izvestia.

In December 2016, the management of the Life TV channel decided to transform the channel according to the Euronews model. As a result, the presenters and correspondents disappeared from the frame. Almost six months later, in May 2017, the channel’s staff, according to the site’s source, was reduced by a third: editors, correspondents, writers and producers left. Melekhin also left with them, and was replaced by Svetlana Levintas.

On the channel, out of six on-air teams of six people, only two teams of three people remained. Melekhin, in a conversation with the site, noted that “the Life channel could exist comfortably for another 5-7 years. No problem at all. But in the long term, the decade is a dead horse, and there is no need to bet on it. She won't make it to the finish line. Investing in the channel is a waste of money.”

It is interesting that after News Media began to close old and open new projects, the holding carried out an inventory for the first time since its existence. According to the source, all equipment and furniture in the holding were counted, some of which (tables, bedside tables and chairs) were simply transported to the offices of projects controlled by Aram Gabrelyanov. And some furniture and office equipment were simply put up for sale, for example old Apple computers. The source says that the holding’s management is preparing to send equipment for mobile exit live broadcast - LiveU backpacks.

Several principalities

From that moment, individual projects began to appear in the media environment, sponsored by Gabrelyanov, but which were not directly related to the Life brand. “The management scheme at News Media has changed, it has become horizontal. That is, creative managers offered Aram Gabrelyanov the idea of their project, he considered it, then, if he liked it, he sponsored it. As a result, the manager has a personal interest in the development of his project. True, so far none of them have reached self-sufficiency,” explains the source.

Ilya Melekhin told the site that his stream project Black Elepfant Aram Gabrelyanov allocated 30 million rubles. “We should reach self-sufficiency by the end of the year, and we will, I have no doubt. I see the numbers that are coming now. Advertisers are very positive about our format. We really make money,” says Melekhin. According to him, “no one (that is, Gaberelyanov. - Znak) is interfering in the project,” the work is being carried out independently.

Mash- a public page created by Nikita Mogutin, ex-head of the news service of the Life.ru portal. Now Mash has more than 768 thousand subscribers on the VKontakte social network (one post on average gets from 70 to 180 thousand views), more than a thousand on the YouTube channel, and an audience on Telegram - 32 thousand people (each post on average viewed by 30% to 80% of the audience).

Nikita Mogutin told the site that “working with regular news was a thrill at first, but then I just got tired of it. People are tired of consuming what journalists feed them in traditional media - this is the Soviet canteen.” “We now work directly with those for whom we write, telling them what is interesting to us. Who, excuse me, needs news about Donald Trump’s tweets or UN Security Council meetings?” Mogutin explained to our publication. According to him, Mash “has 23 million monthly reach and almost 70 million views on the VKontakte social network.” And on Telegram, Mash gained 32 thousand subscribers in 3 months. Almost 7 million views per month on Telegram. It’s such a blast.”

LLC "Izyum" is a creative company for the production of native advertising, the idea of which belongs to the ex-deputy editor-in-chief of Life.ru Darina Evtushenko. Perhaps the most successful project of Izyum was the YouTube channel “Druzhko Show”, created in April 2017. Today, almost 3 million people follow Sergei Druzhko’s analysis of Internet trends and memes.

“I don’t do the Friendly Show. I'm being honest. I'm just an investor. I can say that 30 thousand rubles were spent on the promotion of the Druzhko Show. Not another ruble. “Yes, a lot of money is invested in content,” said Aram Gabrelyanov in an interview with Amiran Sardarov.

Space- information and analytical agency of the ex-editor of the Life.ru portal Alexander Potapov. According to RNS, after leaving Life.ru, Potapov wanted to create a project to produce content for social networks: games, videos, interactives.

Gigarama— a project to create gigapixel panoramas of Marat Saichenko (after a week of captivity in Ukraine in 2014, Saichenko became the head of the service Life operators). This project can be found on the Internet using the hashtag #gigarama, which leads to the website Life.ru. Gigarama LLC, according to SPARK, is also divided between Gabrelyanov and News Media in a ratio of 3:1.

War correspondent Semyon Pegov (“Man of the Year”, according to News Media in 2014) decided to create a crash project WarGonzo. Judging by the description of the WarGonzo channel on YouTube, Pegov talks about war in his project, studies weapons, and conducts crash tests. VARGONZO LLC is divided between Aram Gabrelyanov, who owns 75% of the company’s shares, and News Media, who owns the remaining 25%, SPARK says.

Ex-deputy editor-in-chief of Life.78 Konstantin Pridybaylo received investments from Aram Gabrelyanov to develop a political show for young people "Black mirror". In an interview with RBC, Pridybaylo said that the first broadcast of the show will air in September; there will be no host in Black Mirror, because anyone can become the author of the show. In Black Mirror LLC, 75% belongs to Aram Gabrelyanov, 25% to News Media.

Former deputy editor-in-chief of Izvestia Anastasia Kashevarova now owns two media outlets: Daily Storm And This is media. According to our sources, Kashevarova’s project was sponsored by Aram Gabrelyanov and Ramzan Kadyrov.

Darina Evtushenko (9%), Nikita Mogutin (10%), Anatoly Suleymanov (15%), Alexander Potapov (15%) created a joint company LLC "Five Public"(a controlling stake of 51% belongs to Aram Gabrelyanov’s partner, Karen Mirzoyan). This company unites VKontakte public pages in different cities of Russia. For example, “Typical Yekaterinburg” and “Typical Chelyabinsk”. Some VKontakte groups are bought out entirely by Five Public shareholders, while others are leased.

“Judging by how actively Aram Ashotovich promoted his new projects at the expense of Life, that is, not entirely his own resource, this looks like some element of the deal,” says journalist Oleg Kashin. — Deals either with the Kovalchuks, who own Life, or with the Kremlin, which over all these years could, without exaggeration, be called the real shareholder of Life. In general, it seems very likely that on the Kremlin’s side, Gabrelyanov’s main counterparty was Vyacheslav Volodin - with his arrival everything blossomed at Life, but with his departure everything died out. Telegram channels and public pages are a different market, with different money and different people. For Gabrelyanov, this is a downshift in any case, but it’s hard to doubt that he will be able to become the leader of this market, he knows how.”

Media analyst Vasily Gatov doesn’t have much faith in the success of new projects: “It’s like a lottery. This is some kind of experimental activity. Sometimes such projects work out.” “As long as Aram Gabrelyanov’s center of business was the newspaper Zhizn, which he knew how to monetize, everything was fine,” says Gatov. — As soon as he began to engage in a business unfamiliar to him: the website and Life channel, in which the key thing is investment assessments, everything changed. Gabrelyanov from the old business culture. He committed a large-scale fraud. In America, he would be in prison, where those who gave him money would put him.”

Why does Gabrelyanov need many new projects with young managers? Gatov believes that either “the managers of Gabrelyanov’s new projects are much smarter than him,” or “Aram Ashotovich himself is simply tired of everything and thus wants to take a break from his work.” According to Gatov, such transformations in News Media are logical: “First, traditional media try to adapt to digital format, after some time they realize that there is no investment, then they create incubators like Mash. It's all a cheap try different models earnings and communications." Small projects, according to Gatov, “are good because they do not create a long response either to the audience or to the people who create it. This is temporary. But for an effective shot, the Russian media market must be three times larger.”

“Although Aram Gabrelyanov knows how to realize non-economic opportunities: selling political influence, receiving indirect subsidies from those who want to please the authorities, from the authorities themselves,” recalls Gatov. “We are now witnessing a critical moment in media history, when traditional formats, which include newspapers, radio, television channels, and sites focused on desktop consumption, are balancing on a knife’s edge. The fact is that their future is increasingly less certain due to the growing transfer of money to the Internet. We must understand that all the projects launched by Aram Gabrelyanov, and not only him, in the last 10 years turned out to be incorrectly calculated. That is, we had to count not on growth, but at least on stagnation or even decline.”

“Russian media consumption is at a standstill, like Sevastopol during the Crimean War. You can do local project, playing in a very small market, but scaling it is a mistake. The Russian media market has turned out to be too difficult for Russian entrepreneurs who rely on chance,” the analyst believes.

The Digital Television (DTV) company, which manages the thematic TV of VGTRK and Rostelecom, is closing the Country channel, dedicated to Russian regions. It did not attract a discernible audience despite high content spending. Instead, a children's channel "Multimusic" will be launched with songs from cartoons, the rights to which will be purchased from Soyuzmultfilm and other major studios.

The DTV company VGTRK and Rostelecom will launch a new TV channel “Multimusika” in place of the “Country” channel on December 1, Deputy General Director of TsTV Sergei Koshlyakov told Kommersant. The basis of the Multimusic broadcast will be songs and music from cartoons - for example, the network will have an hour of songs about friendship, an hour of dancing, lullabies, etc., explains Mr. Koshlyakov.

If we look at the TV viewing figures, we will see that Russian animation is stunningly stronger than international animation, contrary to existing beliefs

Channel "Strana" lagged behind other channels of DTV in terms of audience. It was designed for residents of the regions; VGTRK bought it in 2011 from a pool of investors, including former RBC CEO Yuri Rovensky. The transaction amount was not disclosed; sellers previously said that they invested $10 million in the launch in 2009. “Country” did not achieve a significant audience: the average daily viewing time was six to eight minutes a day, which was unacceptable given its high costs for content, admits Sergei Koshlyakov - for other educational DTV channels, 20 minutes is considered the norm.

Former and current employees of the TV channel also told Ura.ru about salary delays and staff reductions. The general director of Tsargrad TV, Elena Sharoykina, denied this, saying that “in a number of areas, there is a recruitment of employees, not a reduction.” Information about possible closure She called the TV channel rumors.

Earlier, the Life portal reported that the general producer of the channel and businessman Konstantin Malofeev announced the merger of the Tsargrad and Spas TV channels, and the Tsargrad employees will either move to the ROC TV channel or be fired.

The Tsargrad Canal closes when and why the reason. Urgent information.

The Tsargrad TV channel broadcasts around the clock in Russia and is currently available to subscribers of Tricolor-TV, AkadoTelecom, ER-Telecom, TransTeleCom, Orion Express and 'MEGOGO. The channel is also available on the Orion Express satellite.

Let us remind you that on September 1, the Tsargrad TV channel launched the first livestream broadcast in Russia in official groups channels in social networks - Facebook, VKontakte and YouTube. New format- This unique content and interactive, allowing viewers to become co-authors created programs. Viewers had the opportunity to communicate with presenters and guests in real time. All content will be developed specifically for users social networks. The authors and presenters of the programs will be famous journalists, public figures and recognized experts in the fields of politics, economics, history and culture.

According to statistics cited by Elena Sharoykina, the number of visits to the website of the Tsargrad TV channel in October 2017 amounted to more than 15 million people. “We have outstripped the TV channel Dozhd and Forbes in the Liveinternet rating. If a year ago we were 200th, then in October of this year we were 42nd. We entered 50 the most rated Media,” the manager concluded.

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The life of the channel was bright, but short. Three years after the start of broadcasting in September 2014, rumors began to spread that Tsargrad would soon be closed, merging it with the Spas TV channel. And indeed, as of December 1, “Tsargrad” leaves cable and satellite broadcasts, continuing to broadcast on the Internet.

The Tsargrad channel merges with another channel. Latest information as of 02/08/2018

“In front of our team they stand, as always, grandiose tasks. The results we have already achieved today are inspiring. Speaking to a younger audience in a conservative language, offering our point of view, our view of the world through the prism of Orthodoxy is not an easy task. We need to deal with it. And we will cope with it,” Elena Sharoykina set goals for the future.

In parallel with the change of broadcasting platform, new projects will be aired. So, on December 4, a program called “New Russian Philosophy” is launched. Its host will be Ivan Okhlobystin.

In this context, the publication mentions Vladimir Putin’s assistant Vladislav Surkov and former deputy head of the presidential administration, State Duma Speaker Vyacheslav Volodin; the first allegedly did not like “the coverage of events in the DPR and LPR in an overly militant manner and the channel’s love for the former DPR Defense Minister Igor Strelkov,” and the second, according to former TV channel manager, recommended “not to place a bet” on Tsargrad TV due to possible reputational risks.

Previously, Tsargrad became a laureate of the annual National Prize in the field of satellite, cable and Internet television “Golden Ray”. The television company was awarded a special jury prize in the “Non-standard journalism” category. Let us remind you that subscribers of the largest Russian satellite operator"Tricolor TV" TV channel "Tsargrad" became available in July last year.

In this context, the publication mentions Vladimir Putin’s assistant Vladislav Surkov and former deputy head of the presidential administration, State Duma speaker Vyacheslav Volodin; the first allegedly did not like “the coverage of events in the DPR and LPR in an overly militant manner and the channel’s love for the former DPR Defense Minister Igor Strelkov,” and the second, according to the former manager of the TV channel, was recommended “not to place a bet” on Tsargrad TV because possible reputational risks.

However, dear colleagues were quick to publish headlines about the closure of the TV channel. According to its general director Elena Sharoykina, the rumors are greatly exaggerated. The Tsargrad TV channel “not only does not close, but, on the contrary, launches new projects.” So, on December 4, the program “New Russian Philosophy with Ivan Okhlobystin” is released.

Sharoykina’s words were published on the Tsargrad website. She also emphasized that she intends to expose the myth about Konstantin Malofeev’s “abdication” from the post of general producer of the TV channel. However, Sharoykina further says that “Malofeev has indeed resigned as general producer, but he remains a shareholder of the TV channel.”

The general director of the TV channel, Elena Sharoykina, claims that the TV channel is not closing, but is launching new projects. Taking the opportunity, she announced one of them with the participation of Ivan Okhlobystin.

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